Ep148: Wake Up To Sleep - Charlie Morley
In this interview I am joined by lucid dreaming teacher and best-selling author Charlie Morley.
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Charlie recounts a trip to South Africa to see his Buddhist guru Lama Yeshe, and recalls a mystical experience he had there while on retreat with Dr Daniel P Brown.
Charlie reveals his most effective lucid dreaming techniques, explains why meditation can be bad for trauma, details his work with veterans with PTSD, and demonstrates a powerful breath technique to regulate the nervous system.
Charlie also speaks openly about his recent life struggles, including the terminal diagnosis of his mother, the end of his marriage, and an emotional breakdown that led to suicidal ideation.
Charlie shares how these struggles have profoundly transformed every aspect of his life and clarified his life mission to help others.
Topics include:
00:00 - Intro
01:01 - Visiting Lama Yeshe in South Africa
09:00 - Charlie on Dr Daniel P Brown
12:42 - Mystical experience on retreat with Dr Daniel P Brown
15:50 - Pure vision and experiencing emptiness in the dream state
18:39 - Awareness and learning in lucid dreams
20:07 - Claiming spiritual attainments
26:09 - Charlie’s work with with veterans and PTSD
31:56 - 5 pillars of trauma work with veterans
34:36 - The power of coherent breathing
44:12 - Meditation bad for trauma?
46:10 - Guided coherent breathing practice
54:53 - Tummo, and Wim Hof, and trauma
59:24 - Why sleep hygiene tips don’t work
01:01:33 - Charlie’s ketamine trauma at 17 years old
01:03:11 - Charlie on tummo practice
01:07:04 - The most effective lucid dreaming technique
01:10:08 - Story of a powerful lucid dream
01:19:38 - Charlie’s brutal obstacle year of Alzheimers and divorce
01:24:58 - Charlie’s breakdown and suicidal ideation
01:28:27 - A profound growing up
01:29:43 - What Charlie learned from his breakdown
01:33:46 - Waking up and growing up
01:35:53 - Rupert Spira vs Henry Shukman, creativity and trauma
01:43:14 - Profound shifts in Charlie’s motivation and lucid dreaming practice
01:46:53 - The reflection of Charlie’s mentors
01:49:34 - Charlie’s mission statement
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