Ep268: Sitting with Terror - Khandro Kunzang Dechen Chodron

Khandro Kunzang Dechen Chodron is a teacher of Tibetan Buddhism and executive director of Saraswati Bhawan Publications.

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In this episode I am joined by Khandro Kunzang Dechen Chodron, teacher of Tibetan Buddhism and executive director of Saraswati Bhawan Publications.

Khandro Kunzang recalls her childhood samadhi experiences and communications with animal spirits, her meetings with great gurus, and her own path of mystical experiences.

Khandro Kunzang recounts stories about Lama Dawa and Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche including tales of mirror divination, precognitive dreams, chulen mastery, and other yogic feats.

Khandro Kunzang also explains how to work with terror and collapse of the Self, how to hold a place in one’s practice for uncertainty, and the importance of the student’s capacity when working with a guru. 


00:00 - Intro

00:52 - Early life and connection to nature

03:06 - Exposure to Eastern religion and samadhi experiences

05:38 -  Powerful experience with a Buddha statue at 14 years old 

08:07 - Initial Buddhist seeking

09:44 - Involvement in New Age 

10:03 - Transformative resonance with Yeshe Tsogyal’s biography

12:42 - Collapse of the Self structure

14:11 - Active Buddhist involvement 

16:31 - Taking refuge and life falling apart

18:34 - All in for Dharma

20:29 - Meeting Lama Dawa and open discussion of the spirit realm 

26:29 - Karmic affinity with Lama Dawa

28:16 - Invitation to meet Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche

29:59 - Accompanying Lama Dawa on a 9 month tour

33:10 - The influence of Jetsunma Tenzin Palmo

34:10 - Childhood communication with nature spirits and interest in environmental activism

38:20 - Dreams of guardian angel / dharma protector

40:42 - Feelings of alienation and other awakening experiences

44:58 - Past life as a Kagyu retreat master 

47:00 - New Age interpretations 

50:17 - Time as a sound healer

53:00 - More than mere appearances

54:13 - Trauma and the subtle body 

55:52 - Lama Dawa’s yogic emphasis on experience

58:42 - Lama Dawa’s criticisms of scholars 

59:55 - Bad death of a geshe 

01:00:29 - Lama Dawa’s skill in debate

01:02:06 - Disillusionment with scholarship and social status

01:03:25 - Using the body to process trauma and “stuff” on retreat

01:05:21 - Intense experiences on retreat

01:07:18 - Discipline and music

01:09:08 - Constructive criticism and student capacity

01:11:27 - History of Lama Dawa and Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche

01:18:40 - Mastery of stone chulen and other yogic feats 

01:23:12 - Mirror divination and other prognostication

01:31:21 - Living with a collapsed Self 

01:33:16 - Sitting with terror and holding the place for uncertainty

01:36:14 - Working with the edge 


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Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James

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