Ep267: American Chan Master - Gilbert M Gutierrez

Gilbert M Gutierrez is a Chan Buddhism teacher and a dharma heir of Master Sheng Yen.

Available on Youtube, iTunes, SoundCloud & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.

Gilbert recounts his early childhood mystical and meditation experiences, his deep-dive into closed-door internal martial arts and nei gong systems, and the special abilities he unlocked along the way.

Gilbert describes the unusual circumstances leading up to meeting Taiwanese Chan master Master Sheng Yen, and how an arduous meditation retreat and a powerful encounter with Quan Yin changed his life forever.  

Gilbert also discusses exorcisms, ghost, and vexing spirits, and tells stories of the pitfalls of using spiritual healing to sustain terminally ill patients. 


00:00 - Intro

00:52 - Childhood bardo memories

03:28 - Early meditation experiences 

06:05 - A “roaming” Catholic and asking questions

10:26 - Studies at UCLA

11:37 - Studying closed-door martial arts systems

12:44 - Chinese master vs Japanese karateka 

15:23 - Things are not as they appear

17:45 - Visionary experiences across time

19:37 - Nāgārjuna’s refutation of time and space 

20:32 - True meaning of “no thought”

24:27 - The first level of Chan practice 

25:53 - Nei gong studies and building chi 

29:07 - Developing Wu Nien and related abilities

33:13 - Demonstrating abilities 

34:52 - Meeting a qigong master and becoming his successor

39:52 - Healing abilities of the master

42:32 - Meeting masters and cracking the code

44:15 - Asking why we practice

45:33 - The dangers of using entities to empower your practice 

50:39 - Meeting Master Sheng Yen

54:01 - Master Sheng Yen psychically anticipates meet Gilbert

58:59 - Suffering at first retreat with Master Sheng Yen

01:02:44 - Prostrating to Quan Yin and finding life’s purpose

01:06:37 - Metta, Karuna, and Henry Shukman

01:08:44 - Unconditional compassion

01:11:21 - True meaning of the Heart Sutra

01:18:45 - Moving from qigong to Chan

01:25:57 - Exorcisms, ghosts, and vexing spirits 

01:29:42 - Buddha-perception and seeing other realms

01:31:10 - How do the Buddhas see the world?

01:35:33 - A vision of Quan Yin


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Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James

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