Ep275: I Was A Tantric Disciple - Khandro Kunzang Dechen Chodron 2

Khandro Kunzang Dechen Chodron, teacher of Tibetan Buddhism and executive director of Saraswati Bhawan Publications.

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Khandro Kunzang details her apprenticeship in Nepal under renowned ngakpa, Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche; outlines the course of her training from yidam practice to tummo and beyond; and reflects on the profound trust involved in the guru-disciple dynamic. 

Khandro Kunzang shares stories about Kunzang Dorje’s psychic powers, his testing the honesty and obedience of potential students and even other lamas, and the price he paid for adhering to his yogic ideals by refusing involvement in politics and religious institutions.

Khandro Kunzang explains the value of a close relationship with a guru, what it takes to be a worthy student to a spiritual master, and considers the differences between those who teach dharma with or without lineage authority.


00:00 - Intro

01:06 - Finding the guru 

02:08 - US Tour with Lama Dawa 

06:13 - Personal time and teachings with Lama Dawa 

08:08 - Insistence on ngondro 

09:16 - Proposing a consort relationship

14:23 - Meeting Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche in Nepal

16:46 - Past life test 

20:48 - Receiving Dudjom Tersar 3 Roots Empowerment 

22:00 - Challenged to drink alcohol as a nun

24:41 - Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche agrees to become Khandro’s teacher

25:23 - Further ngondro and 6 month retreat 

27:01 - Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche’s clairvoyance and psychic powers

28:51 - How Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche tested seekers and students

30:29 - Exposing infidelity between a student and lama

31:23 - The importance of honesty and trust 

32:23 - A pride offering

34:13 - Follow-through and other conditions of samaya

36:40 - A disobedient student 

38:28 - Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche’s attitude towards high lamas 

40:51 - The price of purity 

42:52 - Exploitation of Westerners 

44:15 - Ngakpas don’t form groups

45:20 - Faith in the guru

47:03 - Challenged by Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche

49:11 - Arguing with Lama Dawa

50:09 - The value of having a close relationship with a teacher

52:12 - Wrathful teaching vs abuse

53:57 - 2 dimensions of mentorship

55:08 - Motivation and lama wannabes 

57:29 - Critique of bad Lamas who come to the West

59:20 - What makes a real student?

01:00:27 - Importance of work ethic and personal sacrifice

01:02:30 - Self interest and hidden agendas

01:04:14 - Who is authorised to teach the lineage?

01:07:07 - Selecting a lineage holder

01:08:37 - Different levels of teacher

01:10:02 - The burden of being enthroned

01:12:56 - Khandro details her training under Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche

01:14:28 - Generation stage for ḍākinī, lama, and yidam

01:16:02 - Tummo and completion stage practices 

01:19:40 - Rare pipe practice

01:23:23 - Private and public enthronements

01:25:28 - Further completion stage practices and Vajrakīlāya 


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Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James

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