Ep21: The Dutch Lama - Bar-ché Dorje

In this episode I talk with Bar-ché Dorje, a Dutch Lama in the Aro gTer tradition of Tibetan Buddhism.

We discuss Bar-ché Dorje’s early interest in kebatinan, an Javanese esoteric tradition, that saw him plunge his hands into boiling oil and deflect strikes from poisonous machetes. 

We find out how Bar-ché Dorje first made contact with Ngakchang Rinpoche, who was to become his tantric guru for over 25 years. 

We hear stories of the infamous wrahthful teaching style of the wandering Ngakpa Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche, with whom Bar-ché Dorje spend a great deal of time in Nepal. 


Topics Include:

00:00 – Intro

00:38 – Cast of characters

01:40 – Early experiences in Catholicism and martial arts

04:00 – Exploring the esoteric Javanese tradition of Kebatinan

08:33 – the dark side of Kebatinan

10:00 – Encountering Tibetan Buddhism and Ngak’chang Rinpoche

15:22 – About Ngak’chang Rinpoche

18:16 – How Ngak’chang Rinpoche worked with Bar-ché Dorje

21:15 – Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche’s opinion of Ngak’chang Rinpoche

22:50 – The point of the teacher-student relationship

27:45 – Bar-ché Dorje’s personal practice

28:30 – The Ling Gesar Terma of warriorship

39:29 – Stories about the wrathful teaching style of Kunzang Dorje Rinpoche

56:48 – Western Buddhists in the East who miss the point

1:02:30 – Becoming ordained as a Lama and receiving a Terma

1:11:13 – Bar-ché Dorje’s opinion on himself as a Lama

1:16:21 – How to contact Bar-ché Dorje


To find out more about Bar-ché Dorje, visit:

Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James

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